Georgiana Danet is a spiritual teacher that leads Holistic Life Hub.
From being raised in a constrictive dictatorship to exploring the human potential, her experience is worth paying attention to.
She discusses how she came to holistic yoga as a practice and the importance of making a commitment to your wellbeing, whatever that may look like.
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Craig: Welcome to the Happy You Are Here Podcast. In this episode, we are here with Georgiana Danet from Holistic Life Hub. In this show, we talk about tools, techniques, and ideas that can help us live more fulfilling lives. I was excited when I found your Jana because. She really fits a lot of the things that we talk about in the show.
She has some unique experience dealing with and working with neuroscience, psychology and spirituality kind of converging on a bunch of different things.
Why don’t you give us a little introduction about, let’s say your background, how you got to where you’re at and what is some of the kind of things that interest you most within that space that hi, and thank you for having me in your show.
Georgiana: I will start with the very short background. It was brought up in a country with a dictatorship and the conditions. There was not exactly the most relaxing, happy ones you can imagine. I actually don’t wish those conditions for anybody. So there was a lot of stress tensions in the daily life. this fear that at any point you could be thrown in jail.
That’s people were having like in a back of their heads. All the time. So, that was actually impregnating my whole, adolescent life. And that’s why I started searching for something better for, for something which can give my life. Meaning I discovered the yoga class right after the dictator was killed.
Because during the dictatorship, nothing related to spirituality was allowed in the country. No yoga, no martial arts. No, no, nothing that could be considered spiritual. So I started with yoga when I was 18. and I was also, you know, as a teacher, teenager, I was still, you can, I was still a teenager. So I was thinking nobody understands me, you know, a little bit the melodrama.
So I was attending the, these introductory lectures.
The yoga teacher said, “if you have any questions and you don’t want to address them in public, just wait until the end of the lecture come up on stage and you can ask them privately to us.”
So I waited until the end. And really, my whole childhood and teenage life, I was thinking I really want to do something to change my destiny.
I don’t want to live like that. So I want on the stage and I ask, I was asking the teachers, if I start practicing the integral yoga, can I change my destiny?
And they said, yes, you can.
Good then I will start.
So I started when I was 18 and then practicing the integral yoga. Integral means it integrates the entire system is not only physical poses as most people believe.
I realized that actually life is, it’s so much more than we are taught in school or that we learned in our families or that we see in society in mass media. And it’s so fascinating, this topic of self development that I’m, I was hooked, I’m still hooked. And after three years I started teaching it and after 31 years, I’m still doing that.
Craig: So I think that’s really interesting because that’s not an experience that a lot of people, that are listeners of this show which are mostly in the United States have.
I think with things going on right now, people are kind of, having a little more empathy for people that have lived through, do a little more authoritarian upbringings.
I actually know some people from Romania that are probably have some similar experiences, and I know some people from other countries.
But it can take a pretty heavy toll on what you’re allowed to practice and explore.
The freedom to be able to do that and to find whatever it is that resonates with you and then follow that path is something that a lot of people take for granted when you just have access to that.
Georgiana: When I came to Sweden and I was telling my Swedish friends about my life in Romania, they were looking at me.
I could clearly see that they understand my Swedish language, but they couldn’t relate in any manner to what I was telling them.
Craig: Yeah. Thankfully.
I’d like you to go a little bit further into, describing integrated yoga. Is that what you were calling it?
What’s the word that you were–
Georgiana: Integral? Definitely.
Craig: I come from a background of practicing Vipassanā, and I know is very tied into yoga.
I suppose it depends on which school of thought that you follow but it’s considered part of it.
But coming from like my American upbringing, my understanding of yoga has been entirely physical or how the spirit relates to physical or mental aspects relate to the physical.
So it would be interesting to hear a little bit more about, the fullness of what that, can can be and what that practice looks.
Georgiana: Sure. so. The integral yoga. It’s actually the, we can call it the original yoga, which is a combination of all the yoga branches.
So if you say you practice yoga, you basically say nothing.
You need to have a preface and say, I practice integral yoga means you practice all forms of yoga.
Or you could say “I practice Hatha yoga or Kundalini yoga or Rāja yoga or some form of yoga, but integral yoga is actually the original yoga in which the focus was upon using different sorts of methods, physical call training, mental training, what it is called now, for example, quantum physics, neuroscience, psychology, nutrition, diet, astrology, the sexology, and so on.
They understood very well that we are complex human beings and that that are, more to us than a physical body. And they were addressing the human being as a whole.
So in the ground it’s you can also call it holistic yoga.
And, by you, you start discovering how you work, which are the mechanisms, why you react in certain ways, how you can improve, how you can develop.
And for example, yoga was saying since 6,000 years ago, That’s a human beings use approximately 5% of our innate capacities. Now science says exactly the same thing. Six years, 6,000 years later say I’m scheming groove, the same thing. So imagined. The happiest feeling you ever experienced the most brilliant ideas you have had the most radiant state of healthy ever had 5% of what you can.
Can you imagine yourself with 100%? So, so when you start practicing the integrity, yoga, you really learn. In depth. What means to be a human being, which are the levels in a human being, which they mentioned, you have, how your mind works, how your subconscious mind works, how your psyche works, how your physical body works, what you need in order to maintain your body healthy, what you need in order to maintain your emotional life, balanced what you need in order to make the best use of your most powerful instrument, which is your mind.
And also you understand this, that you, you can’t be. And do much more than you are and do, right? No, because right now you are just no matter how magnificent you are, it’s only 5% of what you can. So all of these so-called paranormal powers that people are speaking about in some traditions. That’s not part of normal, they are normal, but they are dormant.
They’re latent. They are not awakened. So all these paranormal powers that you can hear about that actually normal capacities, which are not awakened.
Craig: Yeah. I think that, it’s funny because I often talk about, if humans had an instruction manual, for how to properly use the human body and our mind and our, everything that’s tied together with that– within the greater system– we probably wouldn’t use it.
People are stubborn, you know?
Craig: And it’s interesting. The more I learn, the more I find that there are a lot of these ancient schools, I guess you could call it, where people did figure out a lot of, and maybe within a different, you know, vocabulary and modality of understanding than the traditional Western scientific viewpoint might be.
But it’s a lot of that stuff. If it’s like, you’ve pointed to a few times that that fits into the same. The pieces fit together. We’re using different languages to describe them.
Georgiana: It’s just the terminology. The difference, because if you, if you, if you are interested in spirituality, and spirituality doesn’t mean the religion.
So if you are interested in the spiritual dimension of life and humans, you will find that all spiritual traditions, they. Speak exactly about the same thing with different names. So the terminology is different because the reality is the same. It’s just that it was described in different manners, depending on the culture or geographic area and so on.
So for example, in Chinese medicine, because in Western world, we are quite familiar with that. We heard about meridians. And if I say anything about meridians in the human body.
Everybody knows what that is, at least in theory and in yoga, they are called nadis.
It’s exactly the same reality they describe when them names.
No matter where you are from or not that also the tradition. They described the same reality because, how I am as a human being in the Western world is exactly how I am as a human being in the ancient world. It’s not that they’re not two different species.
Craig:Yeah. I think it is that people seem to have a– myself included– a certain resistance to giving into something fully.
I think maybe it’s partially, it’s a little bit overwhelming.
There’s so many different because of the internet where we have this availability of information and, and there’s so much information and, you know, it’s, it’s hard to decide which things maybe resonate with you the most and which things will be the path that, you know, allows you to reach that higher potential of your higher self.
And. It can be very overwhelming. What do you, what do you think it is that causes us, I guess, to shut down, I feel like that’s what happens is, is people are presented with this, like overwhelming, like you say, you know, let’s say we’re using 5% of our potential. What if we could reach 100%? That sounds incredibly overwhelming to most people.
Georgiana: I thought it will sound extremely fascinating and motivating.
Craig: Well, both it does. It sounds fascinating. And then it’s think you think, I can’t even maybe comprehend that. You know, I think that, and maybe this is not your experience. It’s not like it’s, it’s maybe just my experience and the experience that I have of the people I interact with.
But, it seems like, you know, if I were to present someone with. All of the things that have helped me get to the point where I’m at. and I feel like I have so much further to go it’s sometimes that can overwhelm people and they can just say like, well, I don’t, I’m not, I can’t do that. I see, I can understand that.
Georgiana: I believe from my, from my experience in working with. Thousands of people. it depends too to start with, with how we aren’t raised up, because both in school, but also in our families to the greatest degree, we are taught how to do and to have. And the way I’ve not taught so much how to be, of course our parents are teaching us, some, common sense rules and good man, but still, neither in school, nor in the family, people are teaching us.
This is what it means to be a human being. These is your potential. These are the abilities you could use more. This is how a human being functions. And if you want to function optimally and properly, you need to do this and that. If we will have that since we are kids, nothing will seem overwhelming for us any longer.
Craig: Right. So I think it has quite a lot of to do with the upbringing and the education we get. It’s my experience. And I think it’s, I don’t know if this is applicable everywhere, is that we’re raised with a lot more of what you can’t do. You can’t do this, you can’t do that. Don’t do that. You shouldn’t do that.
And less of this is what’s possible, especially in regards to what. Within your human body and your human mind, which I don’t know where that necessarily, there’s all kinds of, you know, things you could say that that comes from, but how do we, if, if let’s say most of us have that upbringing and have that kind of privilege, determined wiring, you know, what are some of the steps that we can start taking, especially.
Early on, in a path to, to open up.
Georgiana: Like me being, really discontent with what life has, what normal life so called has to offer to you and you want more from it. So that can be a path and many people actually start seeking something more when they are depressed. Or when they suffer from anxiety or they had the very bad to break a breakdown or something, which was, somehow tragic to a certain degree, but it doesn’t have to be like that.
The starting point is to realize that there is much more to life than you can see right now, or you can even comprehend. And also. the, the thirst for truth to really find out what’s the truth about me? What can I really do? Is it, is this it is this all I can do? What it is, did more so it has.
Craig: Yeah, I think there’s a balance too.
There’s a, there’s a, there’s a balance between knowing about and knowing something, you know, there’s a difference between intellectually understanding something and then experientially knowing something. And that’s where. It’s easy to get, especially with the information that’s everywhere. It’s easy to get caught up and knowing about things, and reading about it and thinking you understand it, maybe dismissing it because it doesn’t fit into your current experiences, but until you actually start to practice something and you get that experiential evidence for yourself, you know, You don’t really know it ever you can study.
Georgiana: Absolutely. So, so one of the, one of my favorite sayings, which comes from your guy is that, a gram of practice is worth tons of theory. So you can be the most learned needs person on earth. If you do not practice and obtain results is just the information is not life.
Craig: To really break down your current belief systems. You have to take some action and actually start to practice something. Even if you’re just trying it. I think, you know, it can be overwhelming to say, I’m going to dedicate my entire life to this school of yoga or this, even, you know, new eating pattern or this idea, meditation, whatever it is.
And that can be overwhelming when it’s so different from your current. Worldview and your current, maybe you can shift. Maybe you can shift the perspective and say, I will dedicate my life to my wellbeing, or I will dedicate my life to me being healthy and happy. Yeah. Yeah. That’s an interesting then. you will find, you will find different ways.
Georgiana: So that you will reach you being healthy and happy and then it will not seem overwhelming. It will just seem natural. Of course. I want to be healthy. Of course, I want to be happy, so, okay. What can I do about that, this and this and that is that kind of the, you know, you you’ve coached a lot of people, so that’s kind of.
Craig: I think where you have some experience that I might not, and the listeners might not. Where does it seem like that’s the starting point, is that kind of resolution to not necessarily this specific practice or that specific practice, but just your wellbeing and dedicating to.
Georgiana: Yes. Which is. Yeah, because, because, you know, if we’re sitting, it’s pretty clear and self development and they call it on purpose self-development and not personal development, because you don’t need to develop more of your personality.
You need to develop yourself. If we are speaking in terms of spirituality and self development, you will also speak about ego and the ego doesn’t want you to develop. Because they go on to say safe and, ego likes, well known things, patterns, habits, routines, so everything, which is unknown Neal. Yeah.
Surely having the effect of, deep transformation. The ego will come with very smart arguments. Why you shouldn’t do that? And I said smart and not intelligent. So the ego is clever, but the ego is not intelligent. So when you start, then you can, you can have this. Yeah, I think clever is you can start your self development like this, shifting a little bit, the perspective and thinking I will simply dedicate my life to me being healthy and happy.
And then I’ll see what I need to do, because if you, if you think like that instead of, Oh, I have to dedicate my life to being vegetarian and practicing three hours yoga per day, and two hours of meditation and renouncing this and this and that. I don’t think there will be many enthusiasts.
Craig: The ego can be so tricky in that. It really can find any way to convince you that you should stay, exactly where you’re currently at until, you know, I think that’s why people come to any form of wellness practice from desperation, from some kind of extreme anxiety or extreme stress or depression and addiction. Trauma is because the state of the current state of existence has to be.
So unbearable that that ego really doesn’t have any ground to stand on anymore. I think it’s much trickier when you have people that even when you are like dealing with that sort of thing, when it’s not so bad. I know I hear this a lot. And I was at once in the same place where it’s always, while I haven’t hit rock bottom, yet once I hit rock bottom, I’ll start taking care of myself, which sounds like such an absurd thing.
But yeah, I think that, you know, It’s hard to convince someone or, and I mean, I guess it doesn’t matter cause it’s up to each, each individual’s journey to decide that you don’t have to wait, wait for that rock bottom to start improving and start finding whatever those practices are that work for you.
Georgiana: And, but once you do start to get that little glimpse of self improvement, it’s like, you don’t, you don’t need to field three really bad. You don’t really have to be extremely depressed and anxious. We can start facility development. Even from a good place. So to say, and this is why, because even when you have no problems and you believe you are healthy and you believe that you are here happy, this is what we had used with.
This is what for us is normal, but there’s a lot under our potential. So what you. Think it’s happy. And what do you think it’s healthy and what you think is hard money or peace or what good state, you experience is still a lot under. What do you actually add able of? So, honestly speaking, I cannot imagine myself how I will be when I have 100% of my potential awakened, but he really wanted, so I don’t care how long it will take me.
I really wanted, so I put everything in my board to get it because I understood and not, not a, not like an intellectual speculation. I understood because from time to time, you have really special States when you aren’t static. And then you understand that, ha this can be my normal.
Craig: Do you feel that, can you see that trend happening over time that you’re getting closer and closer to that state,
Georgiana: more consistently through practice through whatever your practice might be. So you should really have a daily practice. You will start accumulating certain type of energies. If we are speaking a little bit like a physician, so you’ll study, accumulating. certain types of energies, which will have specific results.
So from being a little bit bored with life, you’ll start having enthusiast enthusiasm, and from not being so happy, you’ll start being happy. And from having health issues, you’ll start get rid of them. So you will see a constant improvement and you will realize, ha if I’m doing this. I can obtain those results.
So you have a system that works and when you see that the system works, of course you want more? It’s a, if I may say, so it’s almost like, you know, when you are very in love and you are the one that you love and then you make love and you have fed in delicious States of pleasure. Of course you want more?
Craig: Yeah. Yeah. I think that, you know, that’s, I think the key is. Too early on, especially established something that you can work on daily, that’s consistent because otherwise you might get the, those little peaks, like to say peeks behind the curtain. But, yeah, it’s so easy to fall off when everything seems like, Oh, everything’s good right now.
So I don’t have, you know, I don’t have to practice my meditation and I don’t have to go to as many yoga classes, maybe whatever it is, because I’m good. And then. It falls back down and I have experienced that, less so now, like the older I get, the more I start to realize like, Oh, even when things are good, the, the practice is important to continue because I’ve seen those results.
Georgiana: It was really hard to laugh, consistency, perseverance easily, because if you practice a little bit, half an hour, a day, It will give you better results than if you practice three hours in the weekend, because then you have time. So a little bit of practice daily, it will give you much better results than a lot of practice in the weekends when you are free, when you have some free time.
And also regarding to this with perseverance, I use it as a joke though. I’m very serious. I’m telling my students, I don’t call them clients. I call them students. I tell them. Well with your daily practice, it should be like this, your attitudes regarding your daily practice should be like this. If you are about to die first, you do your daily practice and then you die.
Craig: Yeah, that’s perfect. I love it. I love that. If you were to you, you, you have so many different, I mean, because you’re practicing in such a holistic. Obviously your whole thing is holistic life hub. Like that’s encompasses so much. Is there, I guess it really, in your mind, it depends for each person they’re going to resonate and latch on to different pieces of practice, especially early on.
Is there somewhere where if someone. Was interested by this conversation and wants to learn more, jump off a little bit more into, you know, what you have to share and, that sort of thing. Is there somewhere that they can do that. And is there kind of a direction that you can point them in
Georgiana: that easiest is with my website, which is called holistic life hub.com and there they can. Friends which services I offer and some freebase and smart. So holisticlifehub.com.
Craig: I see you have a, yeah, you have some free webinars and there’s a lot on here that I think, you know, someone could definitely find something that resonates with them and they, they can find also links to YouTube and Spotify and so on.
Georgiana: So the, the webpage is the easiest place to go.
Craig: Great. Is there anything that you’d like to leave? an idea maybe that you want to leave the audience with before we end.
Georgiana: I would encourage everybody to, to consider the fact that, we are here to do a little bit more than wake up, go to work, come home, eat, sleep, wake up, go to work, come home, eat, sleep.
we, we are much more than that and we can’t. we have such a treasure within, we have so many riches within that are worth discovering. It takes a little bit of time and it takes a little bit of perseverance, but it’s so worth it because you will discover that you are meant to be doing and experiencing great things.
Craig: Thank you so much.