Jillian Schrack is a certified hypnotherapist utilizing hypnosis, past-life regressionist, yoga instructor, meditation teacher, breath-work guide, and stress management coach.
She deploys a huge toolset of practices to that she has used to successfully better her life and those of her clients. In this episode we dive into how hypnotherapy works, why it’s beneficial to be in such a suggestible state of mind, and how it can be used for their highest good and changing lives.
If you have a problem, you’re stuck, or have negative thought loops that you can’t seem to break free of, hypnosis can help train your brain to choose a different pattern.
Learn more about Jillian’s practice, MesmeRise Hypnosis here: https://www.mesmerisehypnosis.com/
About a year ago I attended one of her workshops, which I shared a recap about. It was very effective in helping me reframe my mindset around debt I had accrued by starting my marketing consulting business. You can listen to that episode here.
*These transcriptions are done by a computer so they are far from perfect. We are working on having a human touch these up. In the meantime, enjoy these mostly legible words:
Craig Inzana: [00:00:00] Jillian Schrack is a certified hypnotherapist and past life regression, as well as a yoga instructor. She is well versed in a lot of different wellness and wellbeing modalities. We’re going to talk about a lot of different things in this episode.
This episode is special because not only is Jillian an incredibly interesting woman, she’s also my partner. So we recorded this from our apartment.
Jillian Schrack: [00:00:52] I’m Jillian. I live in Omaha, Nebraska, and so does Craig for now. I am a hypnotherapist. I’m a past life regressionist, I’m a yoga instructor, and I’m a breath-work guide meditation guide.
Yeah. That’s kinda what I
Craig Inzana: [00:01:17] good stuff. How long ago you re relatively recently started? Your actual practice. How long ago was it that you were certified in hypnotherapy?
Jillian Schrack: [00:01:28] I got certified last may. The end of last man hypnotherapy. And then I was practicing. as much as I could, I was also working a full time job.
So I was practicing on the side as much as I could. And then once COVID hit and, I lost my job. which is a blessing in disguise, really, because I hated that job. And I shouldn’t say hate, but like it was the end. It was the end. So then I was like, wow, this is the perfect time for me to really focus all of my energy and all of my attention onto building my hypnotherapy past life business.
So that’s what I’ve been doing full time for the past, since March. I don’t know what month is it?
yeah, so that long
Craig Inzana: [00:02:19] hypnotherapists, okay. That I had heard about before I met you. Obviously, I didn’t really know much about it. I had the conceptualization of entertainment hypnosis, which some of the listeners might have that as well, which they are related, but not the same. We’re using the similar techniques for different purposes.
Jillian Schrack: [00:02:41] We use hypnosis and an entertainment sense and I use hypnosis and a therapy aspect.
Craig Inzana: [00:02:48] Yeah. So how’s that different. And. why is it useful to use those techniques in. The therapy aspect.
Jillian Schrack: [00:02:56] So hypnosis for therapy is extremely useful because you are, so you just want me to talk about how hypnosis works.
Let’s talk about how hypnosis works. Okay. So basically when you’re going into hypnosis, your people are in and out of hypnosis all day is what I like to tell everyone, every time you are falling asleep, waking up feeling like you’re daydreaming, feeling like you’re. Just in that imagination, like dreamy trancy realm when you’re driving on the highway and all of a sudden you’re home and you’re like, Oh wow.
I don’t even really remember that you’re in hypnosis. So your brain is relaxed. It’s okay into suggestion. So you come into my office, right? We talk about what’s going on with you the therapy component. And then you tell me like what you want in your life, like where you’re trying to go, why you can’t get there.
Going on. And then we do the hypnosis. So we put, we, basically just like super relaxation. So you’re just, it’s very pleasant. It’s so enjoyable. You’re just in a very relaxed. Relaxed state. And what’s cool. There’s like different, weird tricks, like mechanics to your brain that people have figured out that can just like really drop you in a one of them that I think is pretty cool is, so you’re, if you’re relaxing someone and you’re like counting them down, hypnotists like to use numbers, like I’m gonna count you down from 10 to one.
I think that’s just something that the client can grasp onto in their brain. So you’re counting them down. And then one thing that you can do is have them open their eyes. So you like, go from 10 to one, you reach one and you say you’re the most relaxed you’ve ever been. open your eyes and look up.
So when you’re opening your eyes and looking up that produces like alpha brainwaves in your brain, and then when you close their eyes back down and relax them again, they’re going. Like twice as deep into hypnosis. So there’s cool little tricks like that, to get someone into that super relaxed, super suggestible, open state of mind.
Craig Inzana: [00:05:01] And why is that beneficial to be in a suggestible?
Jillian Schrack: [00:05:07] Yeah, absolutely. So another thing I want to add that. The only way that someone will go into hypnosis and even agree to be in that suggestible state of mind is that they trust me if they have rapport with me. So they’re coming to me knowing that they can completely let all of their guard down and know we have an agreement that I’m only going to tell them things that is for their highest good and help them to change their life.
So they have to completely trust me. To do that. and not to tell them to give me all their money or whatever, or cluck like a chicken, for some reason, people love to think that hypnotists like to make people cluck, like chickens, they’ve
Craig Inzana: [00:05:45] seen the entertainment thing and that’s they make people look.
Foolish and afraid to,
Jillian Schrack: [00:05:51] but I must say that the reason that people are looking foolish with entertainment, hypnotists is because they want to look foolish in the first
Craig Inzana: [00:05:58] place.
Jillian Schrack: [00:05:59] They want to have fun and they want to go up there.
Craig Inzana: [00:06:01] Yeah. And the tests are picking people purposefully that are going to have fun.
Jillian Schrack: [00:06:08] The people who are basically running up on stage in the first
Craig Inzana: [00:06:10] place.
Jillian Schrack: [00:06:12] Yeah. So what was the question that you asked me?
Craig Inzana: [00:06:15] Oh, why would it be useful to be in that suggestible state? what’s how is it more useful than traditional like talk therapy?
Jillian Schrack: [00:06:22] Okay. The reason hypnosis is so successful and the reason to use it at all is so if you have a problem, if you’re stuck, if you have an addiction you’re dealing with or negative thought loops or anything like that, just to state of mind that you feel like you can’t really break free of just a cycle or a pattern that you’re like, I’ve been dealing with this for eight years and nothing has worked.
I’ve tried everything what’s going on. the reason to use have gnosis is because when you get someone to that level of open suggestion, yeah. You can train their brain too. Choose different patterns to choose a different way. So you’re not stuck in that same rut and that same brain loop you are showing the brain a different path.
And so as you’re showing the brain a different path, different actions, different choices to take. You can, when you’re not in trance, your brain will remember those pathways and choose those. And it’s active as well. So it’s not like I put you in hypnosis and tell you these things and then boom, some people that like it is that fast.
honestly, really it happens, but I like a more integrative approach where afterwards. You, I send you out the door with mantras affirmations, with a plan of action with listen, we did this work on your brain. We like change the mechanics of your brain today, but you are going to have to keep choosing this pattern over and over and over and over again.
And eventually it’s just going to become so easy that it’s, you’re not even going to think about it. And some people that could happen immediately, some people that could take a couple of times.
Craig Inzana: [00:07:59] yeah, that’s that neuro-plasticity, some people have due to different factors, whether it’s DNA or their activity or what they eat.
There’s so many different factors that affect that
Jillian Schrack: [00:08:12] the neuroplasticity in your brain, like how fast you can choose those pathways.
Craig Inzana: [00:08:16] Yeah. Which is something we’ve talked about on the show for like thought loops and the idea of the like neural pathways that get ridged in someone was using the example.
I forget who it was on the show recently. They were pointing out that, it’s like a sled. Was it you that I was talking to that. Okay. It was someone else, but it’s like a sled when you’re riding down a Hill and you start making that groove and it’s just the easiest way is to just keep going down that group.
But if you try to like, steer off to a different path, you can do it, but it’s difficult. And the longer you’ve been doing that same path. And the heavier, it was the heavier that emotional, energy that went through that path, the harder it is to get off of that path. And that’s why you need tools.
And sometimes you need help, like getting up.
Jillian Schrack: [00:09:05] Absolutely. I like the sled. I like to use a river. I think that, I just think of it as a river. I don’t know. Cause I like water, but it’s like just erosion. You go to the same thing and the same thing. Yeah. You need help. People need help, especially. this isn’t new information, but this isn’t really super mainstream.
I feel like it’s really coming mainstream and people are learning more about the mechanics of the mind. And so people need help. Not everyone knows about this. Yeah,
Craig Inzana: [00:09:35] absolutely. How does past lives and past life regression fit into that? We had another past life regression guy on the show. So I’m interested to hear your perspective on that.
Jillian Schrack: [00:09:49] I love past life regression. I love it so much. I think it’s so very cool. And I’m still pretty new. Like I’ve still been doing this for about a year, so I’m still getting just so much more into it and there’s just, there’s so much to learn. But the thing I love about past lives is sometimes you’re really stubborn.
Sometimes your brain is just etched in those pathways and or you just. I think stubborn people are like probably the most hurt people because they’re right. They really putting up their conscious mind is really trying to protect them and put up those defenses. You’re not getting through. I need to protect myself, which is what your conscious mind does.
you’re just, you’re afraid, you’re hurt little child on the inside. and sometimes there’s some massive trauma that’s happened and, humans are really good at suppressing trauma and suppressing and forgetting memory. and. Your brain does that for a reason. there’s a purpose for that.
but it can also like mess you up. So there’s a reason people are coming into therapy to be like, listen, I need help with this. So I feel like past life regressions are a way to like. Remove you once from that real life experience and give you like a metaphor to watch, or like you’re watching yourself in a movie and so you can go X experience a past life, and experience that scene.
And I always think. Always that whenever you’re doing a past life regression, you are experiencing things that are like parallel problems that you’re dealing with today. I don’t think you’re going to go experience something completely random that has no connection whatsoever to do with your current life, your current situation, whatever guidance you’re needing on any problems you might have or direction or anything like that.
So it it gives you a sense safe perspective, so you can go and watch. A past life or scene and see it play out in a way that’s safer. And then with the therapy aspect, after the past life, we can talk about it and I’ve never had a client not make connections and be like, Oh my gosh, that’s I saw the scene, but wow, it’s completely relevant in my life today.
Or I saw this scene and wow. Now I have the answer to this problem. That I’ve been searching for.
Craig Inzana: [00:12:14] Yeah, I think, yeah, it’s really interesting, which I had never thought of until talking to you for the first time about it was, like I, in my own like practice, I practiced basically Buddhism, eclectic version of that has a lot of different other philosophies and theologies involved in it.
it doesn’t necessarily allow for. Just funny. Cause a lot of people think Buddhism has reincarnation as part of it and it’s totally not.
Jillian Schrack: [00:12:43] Yeah. That was new to me. Yeah.
Craig Inzana: [00:12:45] and yeah, I mean it does, to me, like there’s not a, and it’s also speaks to like the materialist side, the atheist side of Not having like past lives, not being real, basically yeah, everyone is connected to some kind of story, but to say there’s like an individual soul that like jumps through to each life, maybe. That doesn’t make sense to me. It doesn’t resonate.
Jillian Schrack: [00:13:09] Oh, it definitely doesn’t make sense. Like logically we don’t
Craig Inzana: [00:13:13] understand at all, just doesn’t resonate as true.
It also doesn’t necessarily resonate as like false. It’s definitely just a, I don’t know. It’s hard for me to Really accept that as truth. And I think there’s a lot of people that feel that way, although about 50% of the world believes yeah. In past lives. So I have both sides of it, but what you’re saying is that even if you don’t believe in PA, obviously if you do believe in past life, it’s cool.
Jillian Schrack: [00:13:39] Yeah. It’s a great
Craig Inzana: [00:13:40] experience at cool experience. First of all. and second of all, it’s. A, it’s a powerful experience to be able to connect with whatever your soul’s like past experiences and lessons were with. If you don’t believe in past lives, it’s still can be useful as a therapeutic tool because it’s basically giving yourself cautious the ability to take a back door to whatever the traumatic or tense things that you’re dealing with.
Jillian Schrack: [00:14:07] Yeah, absolutely. And as much as I, so the way that I come to understand, and right now am comfortable with, understanding past lives is the metaphor aspect. Like I can look at it like it’s a metaphor, but the more I get into it, and the more hypnotherapists I talked to that do past life regressions with their clients.
It’s so hard to just be like, yeah, it’s just a metaphor. Cause there’s some bonkers stuff that people have come across. just, and a lot of people go to past life. Regression is like people who feel that they’ve been abducted by aliens or have some sort of alien connection of some sort.
And they’re like, remembering these abductions or whatever, these just like really crazy things that aren’t even necessarily like past lives, they’d be future lives. They could be lives on other galaxies. They just super incredible things. Like I’ve talked to hypnotherapists who. have a client in a past life regression and they’ll start speaking a different language.
They’ll start writing a different language. They’ll start speaking a language that doesn’t exist. Like all sorts they’ll speak and their voice will completely change to a different something or other just like cookie crazy cool stuff.
Craig Inzana: [00:15:27] yeah, and beyond. Yeah, but yeah, that’s the bottom line is who knows, but it does definitely work as a therapeutic.
Jillian Schrack: [00:15:34] Oh yeah. As a tool,
Craig Inzana: [00:15:36] regardless of what the truth is difficult to pin down some times, especially with those sorts of things, you can’t really prove one way or another. but I think that it’s. I’ve experienced it twice now. basically three past lives. Cause the one regression that we did
Jillian Schrack: [00:15:55] on, in between lives, so that’s called an in between life when you’re going to a past life.
And then we were taking you to no, cause you were in a past life and then we were on the way to the, in between life and you sidestep to it. It’s who knows where you are.
Craig Inzana: [00:16:10] yeah. yeah, because I went to there’s the whole kind of, like I called it the waiting room where you’re like I left this life, went to the waiting room and then went to a past life and then went back to the waiting room.
And instead of coming back to this life, they sent me through to another past life really briefly. which was like a,
Jillian Schrack: [00:16:30] they, what do you mean?
Craig Inzana: [00:16:32] there was like guides there and stuff. Oh,
Jillian Schrack: [00:16:34] this spirit got, when you met your guide part and then they took you to, okay. Yeah.
Craig Inzana: [00:16:41] Yeah. that was, but that was super interesting.
And like I said, even if I’m like, that was just my imagination coming up with it, which is hard to say that it’s hard to, it felt so real and it like. Wasn’t didn’t make sense that it would be something that I would make up or come up with. if I were to come up with a past life, you are
Jillian Schrack: [00:17:01] making, we’re all making everything up all the time.
Craig Inzana: [00:17:05] that’s what I mean by the, when we say truth, it’s like, what do we mean by that? Do we mean like materially provable? cause that’s a different level of truth and like someone’s experience.
Jillian Schrack: [00:17:15] it’s really hard to talk about past lives as material. How did you say that material approvable
Craig Inzana: [00:17:22] material
Jillian Schrack: [00:17:23] materially?
Is that a weird material belief?
Craig Inzana: [00:17:28] but if you’re interested in these, past lives that, Julian does. You have a YouTube channel? Have you started uploading stuff there yet?
Jillian Schrack: [00:17:38] No, not yet. Have
Craig Inzana: [00:17:39] you, by the time we record this episode,
Jillian Schrack: [00:17:42] definitely.
Craig Inzana: [00:17:43] Anyway, you have a YouTube channel where you have recorded some and are going to be recording more.
And what’s the thought process behind. Doing it that way, like sharing it that way. Is it to make people more comfortable with the idea?
Jillian Schrack: [00:17:57] yeah, absolutely. So on the YouTube channel I do past life regressions and I also do hypnotherapy sessions. and I just think it’s really, I would just would like to normalize emotional processing and normalize, discovering yourself and diving into your trauma and.
Showing ways that you can deal with it and that you can release it. And I think the more people who I have so much respect for the people who want to be on putting this on YouTube, because it’s super vulnerable, but I think the more people do it, the more people are going to relate and then think, Oh my gosh, If that person can work through that, like that, then I can too. And if we can, if we just all accept more our own traumas and our own deep emotions and whatever it is we’re dealing with, instead of feeling shame about it or lost or trapped or feeling like you can never change. And you’re always stuck this way, you can just get past that, we’ll all just be happier, healthier.
Craig Inzana: [00:19:03] You said something there that I hear a lot. From typically, usually people that are like in a pretty deep state of suffering for one read that the reason or another is this concept of I am the way that I am, or this is just how I am. Like, I’m just stuck with dealing with this forever. Yeah. And I know for a fact that’s not true because I’ve experienced that.
Basically reinventing my entire personality and habits and all of that coming from being an addict into my current life. And I know like when you’re in recovery, you meet so many people that have similar stories where it’s you completely reinvent yourself. what is your, what do you think about that?
Like how does that fit into your. Work and your worldview and everything.
Jillian Schrack: [00:19:55] Yeah. so I can relate with that pretty deeply too. Like when I was experiencing, just all the mental health problems I was dealing with and all the like craziness that my life was and like things were falling apart and I was like, Holy geez.
Like. There has to be a different way. And it feels impossible. Like when you are down in the deepest, darkest bottom of your pit, it feels impossible. It feels like you can’t change and nothing will ever change. but there are ways, and I had no idea what. There. They were like, I had no idea how to be mentally healthy.
I had no idea how to be emotionally intelligent, but I knew that I was miserable. I knew that I didn’t want to be miserable and I could see other people living the kind of life that I wanted to. And so I had to figure out how to get there. And I actually figured out how to get there through YouTube because I started watching YouTube videos about.
Mental health. And that really started the whole thing and just about different subjects on how to open up spiritually and how to just come and be at peace with yourself. so that, that’s really why I want to put my stuff on YouTube is because that’s what my saving grace was.
And so I learned all of these emotional processes. I learned ways to change your brain. I learned ways to, just be at peace, Yeah, I lost my train of thought. What was the,
Craig Inzana: [00:21:19] what’s the question?
Jillian Schrack: [00:21:20] What was my, what’s my point? How do I come around? To my point?
Craig Inzana: [00:21:24] The question was people that think that they can’t change.
Jillian Schrack: [00:21:28] Oh, yes. Yeah.
Craig Inzana: [00:21:30] How do they move into a place of accepting that they can, and then, what does that look like?
Jillian Schrack: [00:21:37] So people who think that they cannot change, there is no way to change. number one, if you think that, then you’re not going to change. I think the only reason I did change is because I so desperately wanted to not be miserable.
Craig Inzana: [00:21:51] I think that this is just a sidebar. When you said that it makes me realize that maybe some of these people that. I know personally, I think everybody knows people like this that are just absolutely miserable all the time. And no matter what you tell them, no matter how good of the advice that you give them, no matter how much help they get, they’re just always in that space.
I think that they like it.
Jillian Schrack: [00:22:17] Yo. Yeah, it’s addicting. I used to call it the sad girls club. Like I had some girlfriends and we were just, all sad together and it was a sad girls club and it was so good. Desperately just melancholy and like delicious to be there and just fucking miserable. It was awful, but it was like just something about, it felt like it felt.
I think I was addicted to the experience. People’s brains are addicted to that, which is cool. But hypnotherapy is literally changed your changes, your brain. Like you can change the mechanics of your brain, so you are no longer addicted to those feelings. And also I would tell someone who is desperately deep in that state.
Is that doesn’t go away like these feelings of sadness and despair and grief like that doesn’t go away. you just become more accepting of it in your life. Like now I feel sad. I still feel sadness. I still feel despair and jealousy and guilt and all of these things, but I. They don’t run and rule and wreck my life anymore.
I can feel them and I can learn from them. And now that when they show up, I’m thankful, I’m like, Holy, it’s still hard. It is very hard. And it’s whew, okay. what am I going through right now? Okay. Where’s the lesson in this? what do I need to work on? And then I figure it out. And then it’s a relief.
It’s a release. It’s like a hoof, like moving on. And then. On the other side of that is just unending bliss, like complete and utter and absolute bliss. And then it’s wow, thank God. I went through that depression. thank God I was jealous out of my mind. Thank God I was broke as shit. wow.
Because wow. if I really did dive into, I really dive into that stuff now and
Craig Inzana: [00:24:08] it’s all about how you relate to it. it’s like you can, this is the interesting thing too, is that there is a difference between being depressed or experiencing depression and suffering with it.
Like you can experience those emotions and that emotional state, And conceptualize it and relate to it in a way that you move through it. You learn whatever it is. None of those, whether it’s depression or anxiety or, any thing that we is uncomfortable that we call negative. But I would say is uncomfortable.
Those things all exist for a reason. For example, anxiety exists for a reason it’s telling your body that like, It’s giving you energy, like so much of a suffer with not having enough energy. Yeah. Why would we not?
Jillian Schrack: [00:24:59] I get anxious about something. I get really anxious about something and he’d be like,
Craig Inzana: [00:25:04] yes, cortisol and a bunch of different chemicals spiking, which used to be like, you’d get anxious because there was a, the example.
Jillian Schrack: [00:25:12] The tiger, right? Yeah.
Craig Inzana: [00:25:14] Anxious. Because there’s not enough food or anxious because you’re trying, you’re not providing a value to your tribe and your tribe might kick you out. If you don’t. do something useful. And I think that’s more relatable to like how we feel. There’s no clear cut.
if you just do these things, then you’re accepted by the tribe or the things that we do say, give us those value are very out of reach for a lot of people or out of your control, make money. It means you’re valuable to society. okay. Yeah. I didn’t think about that.
It’s not as easy as just snapping your finger and like someone handing you a bunch of money and having a job. and what if they fire you? there’s all kinds of things that are out of your control unless you are preneur. But even then there’s, the consumer market and not like your product clients might fire you.
There’s so many things. If you attach your value to like having money in your bank account, which our society says. Is the store value in our current society, then that’s, you’re going to have all kinds of anxiety about not meeting that and all kinds of depression about not being valuable.
And it takes some work to find other ways to see your own value. and it’s not necessarily just people like me. And you saying like you’re valuable. Just for existing. I think that I believe that, but it’s hard for someone to accept that if I
Jillian Schrack: [00:26:32] know why
Craig Inzana: [00:26:33] that’s okay.
Jillian Schrack: [00:26:34] why am I
Craig Inzana: [00:26:35] valuable just for existing bullshit?
Jillian Schrack: [00:26:39] I think everyone has to find their own. Why I could tell you my why and like why I think humans are valuable just for existing, some people think it’s bullshit. So you definitely had to figure that out on your own.
Craig Inzana: [00:26:49] I love you. Who Simon Sinek is. His whole he’s like a speaker and like coach and stuff.
he’s really, he was, he wrote a couple of books, and he, his whole thing is. Find your why. And it’s all like mission is to have a where everyone goes specifically about work like that. Everyone goes to a job that they love. They’re excited to wake up in the morning and be productive because they’re working on something they care about.
And the whole thing, no matter, you’re not going to do that, unless you start with. Y.
Jillian Schrack: [00:27:23] Yes. So that’s really like the core of why I love hypnotherapy and the core of not necessarily hypnotherapy, but really any kind of work that I’m doing. And the counseling therapy, spiritual realms is to connect people deeply to.
Their soul and their core and to find a deep love for themselves. Cause I think once you find that, and once you are deeply connected to your core, and I think. Once you’re deeply connected to your higher self and connected to the source around you and connect it to the consciousness of everyone and feel loved and supported, which I think that everyone has access to that all of it the time.
But once you start doing that, then you are going out into the world and producing in a way that shows your brilliance and supports. And it’s a service. It’s a service to your community. It’s of service to the people that you love. And. It’s feeding yourself as well. that is my whole mission and everything that I’m doing.
Craig Inzana: [00:28:36] I think that fits really. Are you familiar with the term cocky? Do you know what that is? It’s like a Japanese concept of it’s like this Venn diagram, it’s four circles and a fulfilling life is when is that center of the diagram? And it’s like something that. You enjoy doing something that society needs, something that society will pay for and something that you’re good at or can get good at.
And it’s like finding that thing that’s in the center of that is, will just be this infinite wellspring of, fulfillment in your life because you’ll know that you’re doing something that you like to do. You’re good at it. Like it sucks to be bad at stuff
Jillian Schrack: [00:29:15] Oh my God, it sucks to be bad.
Craig Inzana: [00:29:17] And I think it’s an important.
Thing to say there is that it’s something that you could get good at.
Jillian Schrack: [00:29:23] Yeah. Oh, you’re gonna suck at anything once you try it. I think of my first Sigma therapy client, I like want to go back and be like,
thankfully she didn’t pay, you suck for a while. You just suck.
Craig Inzana: [00:29:36] What do you, do you feel like. Do you feel like you’ve learned a lot over the last year of
Jillian Schrack: [00:29:42] doing it?
Craig Inzana: [00:29:44] What are some of the things that you feel like you’ve taken away from all the sessions?
aside from like the specific techniques?
Jillian Schrack: [00:29:51] Yeah. yeah, other than like working on my technique, it’s just nice to see what I can feel or know or get feedback on that hits with my clients and what I feel that really works and just just refining just every after every session is just refine, and also just becoming more comfortable with myself.
Like the more that I do it, the more it’s just the more comfortable I am, the more naturally it flows in, the more that I can help, whoever.
Craig Inzana: [00:30:19] So we were talking the other day, might’ve been yesterday about. you’re going to start offering, or maybe by the time this episode comes out, you’ve already started offering services to companies, like workshops and that sort of thing.
Just general wellness. what are some of the, so obviously some of the people who listen to this podcast, not all of you, but some of you are business owners or. managers like people in like stressful businesses, usually that’s something we talk a lot about is like how to deal with stress and running a business.
But you could talk about too, probably, yeah. On that end of business. But I’m interested from like the, like how can these kinds of practices be of like objective value too? Company or to their employees.
Jillian Schrack: [00:31:05] Absolutely. if, if you’re a company and you, care about your product or your business and the health and wellness of your employees, like I think now everyone pretty much knows that your health and wellness of your employees directly affects the productivity and profit of your company.
we all know that, especially in
Craig Inzana: [00:31:23] service businesses where like the. The employees are the product
Jillian Schrack: [00:31:28] in a way. Yeah. If your employees, especially now are stressed out, if they’re unwell, all of that lowers people’s immune systems, they’re more likely to become sick. They’re more likely to become aggravated with each other.
They’re less inspired. They’re less productive. So I think wellness programs in. corporations are absolutely essential, especially, sitting at a desk all day that causes a lot of problems in the body. And as a yoga instructor, you can do different strengthening and stretching exercises that you should just be doing all day.
Anyway. and also just like mental exercises, like really high stress environments. I go in and teach people how to manage their stress and it’s super effective and so easy and fast, you can be doing it all day long, as you’re talking to people.
Craig Inzana: [00:32:17] Yeah. Yeah. that’s something that, yeah, there’s a bunch of different, small practices that I’ve learned that have helped me breathing specifically.
Like you’re really into the breathing stuff more so than I am, but. Just taking like a deep breath in a moment, a situation that’s stressful changes your body,
Jillian Schrack: [00:32:36] body chemistry. Yeah. Breathing stimulates your parasympathetic nervous system, which is your rest and digest. So your cortisol levels are going to lower.
Your stress hormones are going to lower just by breathing. Your body will relax,
Craig Inzana: [00:32:51] which sounds so basic, but it’s you do have to practice those things. First of all, too. get your body used to taking a deep breath. Like a lot of us like never take a deep breath unless you think about it. And then also it’s practicing, responding to a stressful situation by taking a deep breath by breathing deep, by taking a few breaths by walking away from the situation it’s needed,
Jillian Schrack: [00:33:14] giving yourself a chance to respond in a way that you choose to respond instead of just reacting, taking a second to calm down, to make a better decision.
Craig Inzana: [00:33:23] Yeah, absolutely. I think that’s so huge. Especially like I said, for service industries, you also do the, healing days is that’s what it’s called
Jillian Schrack: [00:33:34] in Omaha. We have something that’s called healing days and it’s an alternative healing days. So it’s for first responders. So for like fire police, NTS veterans and their families, and we used to have it at the police station downtown, before COVID, it’s on pause right now, but.
so they can just come there’s Reiki practitioners, there’s hypnotherapists, there’s all sorts of different energy workers, massage therapists. yeah. And so we just work with first responders, completely free for them.
Craig Inzana: [00:34:06] Do you find that. Those people are more closed off or are they so desperate to deal with the stress that they’re dealing with that they’ll try it.
Jillian Schrack: [00:34:15] Yeah. Yeah. some I’ve dealt with some pretty serious, like cops were like, I’ve been shot. I have PTSD. I don’t know how to handle this and you just do the best you can and give them tactics. Like when people are in that situation, they’ll try anything. They want to feel better. they might not necessarily be.
People who, cops aren’t necessarily all about energy work and Reiki and all of that, but I don’t think that they’re all closed off to it. Like some people might be, but a lot of cops and veterans and everything. They’re really good.
Craig Inzana: [00:34:51] Yeah. There’s a lot of. I think it’s interesting.
There’s a guy that’s going to be on the podcast soon who was in prison and started a yoga program in prison. And now has a, it’s a national thing. They go to prisons and they teach yoga, because it was such a healing thing for him. and
Jillian Schrack: [00:35:09] yeah, I have a friend who does teaches yoga in prison.
Craig Inzana: [00:35:12] Yeah, I think that’s, and that’s some, someplace where you don’t think of people like. doing energy work and like doing it. And there’s, I know people that there’s someone too, that I’m hoping to have on the podcast soon that does, like a meditation, a mindfulness program with prisons.
And they’re also looking now at doing that with like low income families, people in very stressful situations. Cause it’s like, those are the people there’s definitely a. There’s an interesting thing that has happened in the West because like yoga and most mindfulness training, has been commoditized.
So it’s cost money. So people that really I don’t want to say needed more, but definitely really need those practices and that knowledge don’t have access to it and are never exposed to it. Cause it’s not profitable to Excel.
Jillian Schrack: [00:36:01] Yes, absolutely. And this is what I have. Thought about sense then, because, I definitely struggled with my prices being like, this is not accessible to everyone.
Like I feel guilty. I feel bad. Like I want to be giving my services to the people who need it most and often they don’t, they can’t afford it. But. as I think as people as, just as people, we have, a responsibility to take care of the underprivileged. So I’m not going to lower my prices.
there are people out there who definitely can afford it. I feel like a funnel, like I’m like receiving these, the money that I need to practice to have a space, to further my education, to have marketing, to do what I need to
Craig Inzana: [00:36:45] do.
Jillian Schrack: [00:36:46] Yeah. It’s to pay much taxes and then, all of that, those, then I do volunteer programs.
I find ways to give back. I have a community fund to, if anyone really desperately needs therapy, then they can come and have access to it.
Craig Inzana: [00:37:03] I think that’s wonderful. I’ve thought about that in a lot of ways. Like when I do, I’m thinking about doing like workshops or whatever, within my own. Endeavors, like how can I make this, accessible, but also, still make it, If there’s a reason, things caught with cost, what they cost.
It’s like a, it’s the value that you’re providing the training that you’re bringing to it. And you shouldn’t sell yourself short in that regards, but then how do you, I like the idea of the community fund, cause that is almost like a scholarship and
Jillian Schrack: [00:37:31] scholarships work awesome for workshops and things like
Craig Inzana: [00:37:34] that.
I know a lot of like mindful, like the mindfulness outreach initiative here, that’s what they do is they have, maybe it costs. $350 for a weekend retreat, which obviously is prohibitive for a lot of people. Like first of all, they have to take three days off of work with some people you just can’t do.
But even if they could, they do that to then charge them $350 on top of that, it’s just, it’s prohibitive for most people. Most people in this country live. Below the poverty.
Jillian Schrack: [00:37:59] Oh yeah, definitely.
Craig Inzana: [00:38:01] what they do is when they raise money through like the giving periods of time in Omaha gives and, giving Tuesday and stuff like that all goes towards scholarships to send people to, and it also helps them send their teachers to retreat so that they can bring that knowledge back and teach it.
And in donation-based classes where it’s donation based. So it’s
Jillian Schrack: [00:38:22] it’s awesome. Yeah.
Craig Inzana: [00:38:24] That’s I think a really awesome thing that you’re doing. And I think it’s really interesting and valuable that you’ve been able to figure out different ways to give back where you can. and I think it’s awesome to see you build your own business and learn your own worth and value.
Cause that’s a very hard thing when you’re
Jillian Schrack: [00:38:41] first starting. Oh my God. That’s so hard.
Craig Inzana: [00:38:44] Yeah. It’s so hard. It’s so
Jillian Schrack: [00:38:46] hard. Or
Craig Inzana: [00:38:48] you can figure out what that is, what does that look like until you start talking to people that have more experience? Cause there’s all kinds of things you don’t think about.
And when I started doing video editing work, for example, I would do, and this is when I was actually doing the work on my own. Like I would charge like 12 bucks an hour. Seems like to me when I was making eight bucks an hour, like 12 bucks. That’s great. But then you have to pay self employment tax, which is like 35%.
You have to pay your marketing expenses. You have to pay for your software, that you’re using your computer, that you’re using all of the education that it took to get to that point. At this point, I’ve been editing for 10 years and managing teams of editors for that period of time. So it’s there’s all of that experience that someone’s paying.
It’s still probably undercharged, but think about all of those things. And I’ll have someone coming to me and say I’m thinking about charging $15 an hour. Is that too much? no, that’s too. That’s not enough.
Jillian Schrack: [00:39:38] Yeah. I was like, that’s not enough charge more.
Craig Inzana: [00:39:42] Absolutely.
Jillian Schrack: [00:39:43] Yeah. That is really hard.
It is really hard. Starting a business and a spiritual practice and figuring out just that in general.
Craig Inzana: [00:39:54] Yeah. it’s a weird thing to be. To try to figure out how those things fit together, especially like anything related to like the spiritual and wellness space. Cause I think, people that enter those spaces just want to serve people in a lot of ways.
most people that I know that are in that are hypnotherapists or. Reiki practitioners or Dharma teachers or whatever, like they just want to start.
Jillian Schrack: [00:40:23] They’re so sensitive. Just have sensitive. We just want everyone to be happy.
Craig Inzana: [00:40:28] Yeah. But I think, it’s obviously if you’re trying to build a business off of it, which like.
You need to make money somehow. Oh yeah.
Jillian Schrack: [00:40:37] Oh yeah. Currently, need to charge appropriately for your services for you and all of the other people who are working in the spiritual space, you can’t go out there and just way undercharged, because that hurts all of the other practitioners and it hurts yourself.
if you do it, I don’t know if you’re independently wealthy and you want to do this on the side and you’re just doing it for those around you. that’s fine. That’s totally cool. I wish I could do that, but actually, no, I don’t. I totally take that back because I found giving away things for free.
Like people don’t take it as seriously at all, period. yes.
Craig Inzana: [00:41:12] like you’ve been trying to record these YouTube series and offering basically a free session. For allowing you to record it. Those people have
Jillian Schrack: [00:41:23] every time people flag, no one takes it seriously. It’s not as deep as a process. if people aren’t giving an appropriate energy exchange, like if they want to make big changes in their life, if they are serious about this, then they’re going to pay serious money and they better pay serious money.
That is an energy exchange. It’s a commitment it’s saying, I’m going to do this. I’m going to walk this path and I’m going to do this. I’m going to show up every day, I’m going to do the homework. I’m going to do the things you recommend. so it’s a lot more for them. Like it’s definitely for you, but it’s for them to
Craig Inzana: [00:41:57] absolutely.
That’s what I’ve learned in consulting work. It’s like even in marketing consultant. Yeah. It’s if a client will come to me, ask me for I’ll assess, like I’ll take all this time to go into their business and their data and everything and give them advice on how to market their business or like which things are working, which things aren’t working and the ones that have paid, a couple of thousand dollars for that.
Are the ones that turn around and apply that into their business and get great results. The ones that pay a couple hundred dollars, I was just like, ah, yeah, I’ll just do it for whatever, like kind of half acid. And they don’t because they didn’t really give up. There’s no commitment to it. Like you said, like they’re not bringing themselves fully to it.
And that’s so much, that’s even more. And when it’s like your life, you’re talking about, if you’re trying to quit smoking, let’s say it’s, that’s life or death for a lot of people. And if you’re not putting money into it, then you’re not really going to come.
Jillian Schrack: [00:42:53] No. And also the amount that you’re spending on cigarettes, like you can spend that much one time to not smoke cigarettes,
Craig Inzana: [00:43:02] right?
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So where can people find your, workshops, your YouTube viewers and services?
Jillian Schrack: [00:43:12] Yeah. Cool. So my business name is mesmerize hypnosis. My website is mesmerized hypnosis.com and, you can go there. you can also go to my Facebook page, which is Jill Shrack. my Instagram, which is chill track.
Yeah. You can find me there. I have a Facebook page. That’s mesmerized hypnosis as well, and I’m always posting about mental health stuff and the things that I’m doing in my workshops and stuff.
Craig Inzana: [00:43:43] Cool. Those things will be down in the show notes below. Thank you so much, Jill, for coming on the show and sharing what you know, and what you’ve learned and what you’re learning in regards to therapy and healing and past life regressions.
I think those things are very cool. Definitely check out, her YouTube channel. The mesmerize hypnosis website has information on there. You can book a consultation with you so that you talk more with her if you’re interested in that. and we’re going to do another episode at some point, like I said, at the beginning of the episode, we’re partnering.
Jillian Schrack: [00:44:19] Oh, I forgot that you said
Craig Inzana: [00:44:20] that I, that
Jillian Schrack: [00:44:21] we’re dating
Craig Inzana: [00:44:22] you forgot that we’re partners.
Jillian Schrack: [00:44:24] I forgot that we’re partners. I did not forget that.
Craig Inzana: [00:44:28] You just forgot that I publicly said that. Yeah. But the point is that right? Our one year anniversary is coming up in being in November. And I want to do an episode then about relationships because both of us have a lot of experience with relationships as anyone, by the time they’re in their late twenties, early thirties has, But I think specifically we’ve gotten pretty good at them,
Jillian Schrack: [00:44:54] hopefully.
Craig Inzana: [00:44:55] Yeah. And you’ve done some relationship counseling more or less through your hypnotherapy
Jillian Schrack: [00:45:00] practice too. Yeah, we can talk about all
Craig Inzana: [00:45:03] the episodes. We’re going to talk about relationships on which will be at the beginning of November. So stay tuned for that. Thank you so much for being on the show and we’ll see you
Jillian Schrack: [00:45:13] around.